Apple shareholders sue over Siri delays and massive losses

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Apple shareholders are suing the company over AI rollout delays they claim cost them nearly a trillion dollars.

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Apple sued over delays to AI-powered Siri



When it comes to artificial intelligence, it seems like Apple can't catch a break. Now, after facing repeated delays and misfires relating to the launch of Apple Intelligence, Apple's shareholders have finally had enough.

On Friday, Apple's shareholders launched a class action lawsuit against the tech giant. They claim that the Cupertino-based company has downplayed how long it would need to launch the new and improved AI-powered Siri.

Because of the delay, shareholders are claiming that they have suffered potentially hundreds of billions of dollars of losses in the year ending June 9. As Reuters points out, Apple shares have lost nearly one-fourth of their value since their December 26, 2024 record high, wiping out approximately $900 billion of market value.

Shareholders, led by Eric Tucker, claim that Apple led them to believe that Apple Intelligence would be a driving force behind iPhone 16 sales. However, after the WWDC 2025 keynote, shareholders came to believe that the company had deliberately downplayed how long it would need to launch features promised a year prior.

The lawsuit, filed in San Francisco federal court, names CEO Tim Cook, Chief Financial Officer Kevan Parekh, and former CFO Luca Maestri as defendants.

In 2024, Apple introduced its upcoming foray into artificial intelligence, which it calls Apple Intelligence. Apple promised to offer a more personalized experience than that of its competitors.

The rollout was slow, but features did eventually show up. Apple launched Writing Tools, Image Playgrounds, and Summaries, though the last had its own share of problems.

However, one feature never materialized: the enhanced, personalized Siri. It was one of the most heavily promoted features at WWDC 2024.

Unfortunately, it got delayed. And then it got delayed again.

Now, it's unclear when Siri is due to get its upgrades. Even Apple isn't sure, it seems -- and the executives aren't happy about it.

The only references to Siri in the 2025 WWDC Keynote speech was Craig Federighi promising the company was, still in fact, working on the project.

The vast majority of the share price loss in 2025 was over tariff fears, not AI rollout speeds. It's not clear how the suit filers consider this fact in their filing.



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  • Reply 1 of 41
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,379member
    So shareholders want to sue for vaporware? Good luck on that. This happens all the time with products in every business. Companies try and make a good faith effort to bring a proposed product to market but these products don't always work out. I'd challenge the stockholders to justify everything they've said they were going to do but didn't. The stock market is gambling, plain and simple. Sometimes you win, most times you lose. Deal with it!
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  • Reply 2 of 41
    JinTechjintech Posts: 1,116member
    Wouldn’t this potentially hurt Apple’s stock even more? I seriously doubt they lost nearly a trillion dollars.  What a bunch of  .
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  • Reply 3 of 41
    mknelsonmknelson Posts: 1,176member
    Apple's easy defence: the stock price history.

    It was on a pretty steady upward trend until the end of 2024. The big fall was after Trump announced his tariffs.
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  • Reply 4 of 41
    ssfe11ssfe11 Posts: 188member
    Ridiculous lawsuit from clueless greedy ambulance chasing lawyers. How do these guys live with themselves? Have a great weekend. 
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  • Reply 5 of 41
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,535member
    ssfe11 said:
    Ridiculous lawsuit from clueless greedy ambulance chasing lawyers. How do these guys live with themselves? Have a great weekend. 
    Exactly. Over 40% of Apple is owned by the top 25 shareholders. Think any of them joined this stupid suit? I honestly don't understand the ambulance chasers: Apple's not going to hand them a penny to"settle out of court," and they have 0% chance of winning at trial. So the potential upside is what?
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  • Reply 6 of 41
    Mike Wuerthelemike wuerthele Posts: 7,183administrator
    mknelson said:
    Apple's easy defence: the stock price history.

    It was on a pretty steady upward trend until the end of 2024. The big fall was after Trump announced his tariffs.
    Yup! This is addressed in the piece. Ridiculous suit.
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  • Reply 7 of 41
    ssfe11 said:
    Ridiculous lawsuit from clueless greedy ambulance chasing lawyers. How do these guys live with themselves? Have a great weekend. 
    When one enters law school, one's sense of ethics and morals is removed. It's a condition of admission.
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  • Reply 8 of 41
    Isn’t the point of buying stock that you take a risk on supporting the company? How can you sue them?
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  • Reply 9 of 41
    On Friday, Apple's shareholders launched a class action lawsuit against the tech giant.

    At the risk of being pedantic... "Apple's shareholders" means all of Apple's shareholders. I'm an Apple shareholder and I am not a party to this lawsuit. "Apple shareholders" or "Some Apple shareholders" would have been much more accurate.

    I understand this was a class action on behalf of all shareholders, yet I and many, many other shareholders did not participate in the filing of this (frivolous) lawsuit. We would have no role in this action until/unless it is successfully adjudicated in favor of the plaintiffs.

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  • Reply 10 of 41
    Isn’t the point of buying stock that you take a risk on supporting the company? How can you sue them?
    #GoogleThatShit

    You can sue and stand a decent chance of success in the suit if the company in question deliberately misled shareholders. The SEC - at least, prior to the current regime - can also sanction public companies for false and misleading statements to shareholders.

    I'm not going to go into more specific language because IANAL but this does happen. Didn't Google it right now but I seem to recall Musk got in hot water in the past for misrepresentations related to Xitter. I am fairly certain Rivian is facing a CA over misleading statements to shareholders. Nikola was sued by short sellers over a 2018 demo of their technology that was faked with crude camera tricks.

    I find it VERY hard to believe that Apple just straight-up lied about its AI efforts. They may have exaggerated and used clever language but that's not the same as lying, not even close especially in a court of law. FWIW I had a very strong sense that Apple was spinning hard about their AI efforts judging by the language they used at the WWDC (2024 I think?) where they made a lot of big AI announcements. It had a strong flavor of "concepts of a plan."

    I suppose the attorneys are hoping they can find a judge to see things their way, and if they do then the risk:reward could be very favorable. Given the appalling state of the US judiciary today, that could well be a savvy gamble despite facts not being on the side of the plaintiffs.
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  • Reply 11 of 41
    dewmedewme Posts: 6,089member
    They want to sue Apple because Apple failed to deliver a product improvement that nobody can define with any degree of certainty? This will fly as well as a piano pushed off the roof of Apple’s spaceship campus  

    This is yet another case of the media, speculators, and those self anointed experts who think they can run Apple better than Apple can working themselves and anyone stupid enough to believe them into a frothing frenzy inside an echo chamber of imaginary thinking. 
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  • Reply 12 of 41
    If Apple doesn’t settle then they take the risk of going through discovery.
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  • Reply 13 of 41
    rob53 said:
    So shareholders want to sue for vaporware? Good luck on that. This happens all the time with products in every business. Companies try and make a good faith effort to bring a proposed product to market but these products don't always work out. I'd challenge the stockholders to justify everything they've said they were going to do but didn't. The stock market is gambling, plain and simple. Sometimes you win, most times you lose. Deal with it!
    You seem to think that the securities market is the Wild West, anything goes and caveat emptor. While this is true to a certain extent, the most obvious counter-example is Enron which engaged in grossly fraudulent misrepresentations that were aided and abetted by their accounting firm. There are many other less notorious examples of shareholders successfully suing public companies over lies and misrepresentations to the public and to shareholders.
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  • Reply 14 of 41
    If Apple doesn’t settle then they take the risk of going through discovery.
    and? do you expect that something highly unfavorable will be found?
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  • Reply 15 of 41
    larryjwlarryjw Posts: 1,040member
    Investors, the not stupid ones, own stock for the long term. So, some were dumb enough to buy stock on the promise of some relatively undefined forward looking product? 
    Now you're suing? 
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  • Reply 16 of 41
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 6,178member
    This is nothing more than a money-grab by pond-scum lawyers.  
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  • Reply 17 of 41
    macguimacgui Posts: 2,637member
    Siri is in need of Sirious improvement and has been for a long time. But basing a lawsuit on what is inferred but not contractually promised is absurd.

    Are these actually the proverbial "ambulance chaser" category of lawyers, with adverts of "Have you been..." citing any number and category of wrongs perpetrated by companies? Or are they just sought out by indignant customers who perceive themselves as "wronged". Ok, maybe taking this case and others with no basis puts the latter into the former category.

    So are these suits taken on a contingency basis? Not a lawyer or playing one online, I'd like to see someone who initiates a frivolous lawsuit suffer some real cost, even if the courts don't do it. Obviously lawyers are happy to take a case on contingency if they feel confident of a win and a 30% + payday. We want to see legitimate lawsuits brought and won. 
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  • Reply 18 of 41
    coolfactorcoolfactor Posts: 2,405member

    What about the millions of dollars they've already made from AAPL?
    What about the millions they will make in the future when Apple rises to the top of the AI market? It will happen.

    Why bite the hand that feeds you? Selfish creatures.
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  • Reply 19 of 41
    larryjw said:
    Investors, the not stupid ones, own stock for the long term. So, some were dumb enough to buy stock on the promise of some relatively undefined forward looking product? 
    Now you're suing? 
    yep.  I purchased when the adjusted price is $.88. 
    So I am not complaining 
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  • Reply 20 of 41
    humbug1873humbug1873 Posts: 219member
    What a complete and utter nonsense. Stocks go up, stocks go down and that's not always related to a companies performance.

    AAPL almost always has a year end rally where stock price reaches new record only to lose significantly in Q2 (first quarter of the calendar year). December is a good month to sell AAPL. Stock price usually recovers by the end of the year.

    This year obviously the major damage is that convicted felon in the White House and his crazy tariffs .... and obviously Tim has lost his ability to handle the orange clown.

    Thankfully I did the obvious thing and emptied my US stock deposit (which I had from my days working for Apple) and sold stocks I got for around $1 a piece ... not exactly at the top but at $250. Because I no longer trust any US bank to handle money, you never know what crazy shit the convicted felon is doing next.
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